I’ve been pondering the Case of the Missing WMDs for some weeks now, along with, it seems, everyone else.
Well, no, it seems that many folks haven’t been pondering the matter, but instead have automatically assumed that it was all a Big Lie by Evil Bush, a bill of goods, a transparent attempt to secure Iraq’s oil, or distract from the economy’s problems, or something (as if that was the easiest way to do that, or as if that was the only reason put forward for the war on Iraq).
Here’s a good summary of why that’s a less-than-convincing assumption. A summary of my own:
- Iraq had WMDs. They admitted it. A bunch of them were found and destroyed by the UN inspectors in the 90s — who eventually had to leave, their job incomplete, because Iraq wasn’t cooperating any more. Why was that?
- The UN inspectors, even this year, noted that there was a lot of unaccounted-for material. Iraq continued to hedge and hem and haw and fail to cooperate. The UN resolutions basically required that Iraq prove they were clean. Iraq quite intentionally failed to do so.
- There were plenty of foreign countries (France, Germany, Russia) who were against a war on Iraq — and who, in fact, had substantial financial, ideological, and social motivation to prevent such a war. All of them believed that Iraq had WMDs. None of them came out and said, “Hey, the CIA is being forced to spin their intelligence by warhawks in the Pentagon, so Bush is lying about Iraqi arms programs. Our intelligence says that Iraq is devoid of WMDs, and we’ll match that evidence against anything the Americans and Brits want to claim.” No, all they did was argue about how to disarm Iraq, not whether Iraq needed disarming. And they were quite willing to use the prospect of Iraq using WMDs as an argument against military action. And I’m still not hearing any “I told you so” statements from France or Germany or Russia. (It’s also been noted that these were among the folks who said that UN Inspections should be given several months to years in order to declare Iraq “clean” — though it’s also true that there’s a difference between finding everything and finding anything.)
- The idea that Saddam declined to cooperate with UN inspections, even with the imminent prospect of war, in order to save face with his own people and the world community, seems simplistic. This is a man who managed to “save face” over being thrown out of Kuwait, and Iran. This is a man whose security apparatus and grip over his country was so tight that he could denude forests, dry up swamps, and bury children alive, and still maintain power. That he couldn’t come up with a way — were he innocent of WMD plans, production, or stockpiling — to satisfy the UN (and his prospective clients in France, etc.) and still keep a grip on power and maintain his standing in the Arab world is ludicrous.
So, where are the WMDs?
- Buried. Hidden. A decade of time, absolute control, and a country the size of California make this not unlikely, especially when we’re not talking about hiding aircraft carriers or something like that — we’re talking about manufacturing facilities which could be in large trucks, and material that could be stored in drums marked “solvent” and “pesticide” and “undistributed UN food supplies.”
- Smuggled out. See above. Given how porous the sanctions regime was to stuff getting in (or, as was the case of Syria, with stuff getting out), it’s quite likely some weapons could be removed from the scene.
- Destroyed. But recently, as the JDAMs were beginning to fall. Pour a few thousand gallons of Bad Stuff into a sandy trench, bulldoze it over, and, voila, all’s well and hands are clean (until it hits the water table, but that might takes weeks, months, or years).
- Not yet found. There’s this mistaken idea floating out there that some magic list of a dozen Big, Obvious Warehouses was put forward as where all the Bad Stuff was, and it’s been just a matter of sending a couple of Marines in a jeep to go poke around and find the Big Drums marked Illegal Bio-Weapons and Nerve Gas. There are hundreds of most-likely sites, acres and acres of stuff to inspect there, and the US military is already being beaten up over not spending enough time protecting important things, like museums, and not getting the power running, and not digging up mass graves fast enough.
- It was all an Iraqi conspiracy. This is actually a fun one — the idea that there were plenty of functionaries of Saddam who were playing a game, skimming off R&D budgets, and sending reports back to Baghdad about their weapons programs. A highly dangerous game, to be sure, but potentially a profitable one — and one that would both keep Saddam happy, keep him from wanting to cooperate with the UN, keep foreign intelligence buzzing, and keep the folks involved from being accused of actual war crimes. And it’s not likely that any Iraqi “in the know” who’s come forward to the US and UK with this info would be believed — yet (or, if confirmed, that their story would be likely to be released any time soon).
- We’ve found the stuff — we’ve just not told anyone yet. Are the US and UK governments holding onto evidence to blackmail certain other countries? Or evidence that their own corporations (or even governments) were involved in these programs (in the past, or recently)? This would also explain why none of the in-the-know folks who have been captured haven’t had their stories made public yet. Hey, if you want a conspiracy theory, this one’s got even more to offer than “It’s all about ooooiiiiillllll.”
I don’t know — and nobody else pontificating on the subject knows, either. We know there there was Bad Stuff there, a decade ago. We just don’t know, yet, what happened to all of it. Deciding, especially at this juncture, it was all a Big Lie seems premature at best, and nonsensical at worst.
Well, I don’t bother with InstantSchmendrick, for a good reason. He makes assumptions at times that are just not worth reading.
I’d say if there’s anything, it’s low-level stuff, and likely degraded given the fact that he wasn’t really able to get anything made in years.
3 & 5 are the ones I tend to believe. 2 is possible, but nothing is showing up in intel yet. Personally, I think the stuff really was destroyed, which is what Bush wanted done, anyway. So why invade?
Certainly not for “liberation,” else we’d be in Uzbekistan, who boils people alive as torture. But wait, they’re part of the Coalition of the Shilling.
How about Congo?
The DailyKos mirrors my opinions on the subject.
Well, Scott, there are two ways to look at the “liberation” aspect: reasons beforehand, and justifications afterwards.
There was talk about freeing the Iraqi people before the war. It wasn’t played up because, yeah, it’s hard to justify liberating country X when countries A-W are also rat bastards. It’s also not something liable to get support at the UN, since it would make much of the Security Council (not to mention the General Assembly) a bit twitchy.
That presupposes that if you can’t stop everyone from being an evil, torturing regime, you shouldn’t stop anyone, which, while consistent, is probably not morally defensible.
And, sadly, sometimes we have to get into bed with Bad People in order to defeat Worse People (see: WWII, alliance with Stalin). And, yes, sometimes we get back out of bed with some nasty social diseases, regretting the whole thing.
From a post facto standpoint, as we dig up torture chambers and mass graves and all the other horrors that went on in Iraq, it’s difficult to me not to think it was worthwhile — assuming we do what we can to prevent things from sliding back into that state.
As to Congo — well, that’s a UN peacekeeping operation there. And, if it’s any comfort, the US military is probably tapped out at the moment when it comes to the sort of force that we’d need to field to do anything about that set of killing fields.
And as to what Iraq could have been manufacturing under the embargo — heck, he was able to get and parts in, and all sorts of other supposedly-embargoed goodies, so the idea that e could find equipment and material to manufacture banned goods is not all that far out.
As far as the “destroyed” goes — the question is, when? If it was destroyed in the days leading up to the war, that intelligence might not have gotten out in time (and there’d be no way to confirm how complete it was), and it’s most likely it would have been done by lower-downs, rather than higher-ups (see #5).
Stan, interesting article.
The reasoning as to why this is a snipe hunt still seems a bit simplistic. But interesting nonetheless.
Come on, Scott…you and I have made our peace, I seriously want to hear your response to Dave’s rebuttal. Yes, really! 🙂
Now, now. This isn’t about personalities …
As I said, I seriously want to hear his rebuttal…
Yes, there are certainly a lot of possible explanations for the lack of you-kn0w-whats in Iraq other than the “Bush lied” one. But to me, the important thing is, even supporters of Bush and the war should continue to hold the administration’s feet to the fire over it. Because if you just shrug and say “it doesn’t matter,” we’re lost. I’m not saying you’re saying that, Dave. But I see a lot of conservatives giving lip service to “it matters” before letting the topic fade into obscurity. The American public has a criminally short memory. “Those who forget history etc. etc.”
I do think it matters …
It matters if there are weapons waiting to be found somewhere.
It matters if there are weapons leaching into the soil and water.
It matters if there are weapons that got handed off to third parties.
It matters if our intelligence (among others) were fooled (easily or not).
It matters insofar as one wants history to reflect the truth.
I don’t think it matters nearly as much as some folks do, at least as far as finger-pointing and blaming go. I am very, very far from convinced that it was all some big ploy. Really-truly. It would take some wildly major smoking guns to sway me to that opinion.
For what it’s worth, I do think that the Iraq War will have only a moderate effect on the 2004 elections. The economy, domestic security, and what’s going on in Iraq at the time will have a much greater impact.
Also…
“…it’s a country the size of California…” has become the “It’s all about ooooiiiiillllll.” ™ of the right.
” It’s a country the size of Califooooorniiiiaaaa.” ™ Yes, I do feel better, thank you.
And yes Dave it does matter.
All of those things listed matter.
As well as is this the new Tonkin Incident…
Okay. “It’s a country twice the size of France.” 🙂
The difference between the two trademarked phrase is that one is factual, the other is conjectural. Though I’ll grant that, as an excuse, the size of Iraq is not absolute. But it’s something worth considering.
I don’t think this was either a Gulf of Tonkin or a Maine. I would be, though, extraordinarily angry were that to turn out to be the case.
In my mind, it matters that Saddam and his cronies had shown the mind set to use WMDs, repeatedly, on both civilians and military persons. What would have been sufficient evidence to the critics of the world have have derided Bush? I think nothing short of Saddam using them on American soil would suffice. In my mind, that is too high of a price to pay to appease the jaded people in our country who are more upset at losing the election than anything else.